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STAND UP FOR DELIA.

Thread Starter: Essex Girl    Started: Sun 05 Sep 2004    Replies: 77

Am I the only person who is willing to admit to liking Delia, how many of todays chefs will still be around in 30 years time? If she had a new book/programme out tomorrow it would go to the top of the bestsellers list.Too many people say she's boring, I don't agree, just because she doesn't wear red lipstick, have messy hair or lick her fingers, it doesn't make watching her programme boring. If you want to cook good British food, plus many other styles, her books are a good place to start looking. I like Nigel Slater because he takes everyday food and makes it look and taste special, and Lotte Duncan as she's down to earth.




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Sun 30 Jan 2005, 5.56PM

Fantasia

Yes Jenny, me too, I think you dabble with chickens and things to be flexitarian, Tongue that is on the same site, lots of others referring to other diets or preferences too.

Sun 30 Jan 2005, 5.48PM

jennifer264

lol love that "fishytarian!!" Smile
I still quite like the term "flexitarian" as used in the States.

Sun 30 Jan 2005, 12.53PM

Fantasia

After I posted that I did find all this Almazz ......

Pescetarians (usually pronounced as English, not Italian), is a variant of pesco-vegetarianism that dates back in print to at least 1993 [1] . As of August 2004, "pescatarian", "pescotarian", "piscatarian", and "pollotarian" can all also be found on the internet, but "pescetarian" is the most popular. "Pescavore" is also somewhat common, formed by analogy with "carnivore". "Fishetarian" was also used in print as early as 1992, but is no longer very prevalent

www.vegkansascity.com

Sun 30 Jan 2005, 12.23PM

Almazz

You got it Jennifer264 - Randy Crawford, and the fact that my initials and maiden name almost spelled 'Almazz' too, (it's definately nothing to do with me being 'pure and simple' that's for sure!)

By the way, back on the Delia bandwagon - I do have a further comment for those of you who are having a go here at the way she is too exact about her methods or ingredients.

If she has tried and tested many ways of working a recipe and beleives that she has managed to get it as good as it could be - then why shouldn't she be precise about how it's done or what she thinks should be put into it?

Sometimes even a slight variation can sometimes make a meal taste totally different to what was intended, and doesn't always do it justice. Has anyone ever considered that maybe the reason Delia's recipes are so reliable is BECAUSE she is precise?

Don't get me wrong, I am not adverse to altering recipes myself, or even combining two or three totally different ones to suit my taste, or what happens to be in my larder at the time. Yes, most of the time it turns out great, good or adequate, but I have to admit that on occasion my penchant for throwing in this and tossing in that can also fail miserably (and it did just the other night - sorry hubby!)

Anyway, how would I know if what I am putting on the dinner table is AS good (or even better) than Delia or any other chef for that matter, unless I'd tried it their way first?

By the way - I like the term 'piscotarian', can't beleive it isn't already in the dictionary as there are so many non meat eating fish lovers out there.

Perhaps we should start another campaign?

Cheeky

Sat 29 Jan 2005, 5.49PM

Fantasia

Sorry for being so late to reply about Tony Tobin and the Lea and Perrins Flooky, Big Grin , but no he did not know that it contained anchovies, but having said that the Lea and Perrins recipe was a very very well guarded secret until they were made to list the ingredients on the bottle wasn't it?

As for non mean eaters, or fish eaters, or non meat eaters who eat fisheaters (sorry Mary) well this will go on forever, and there are many different terms, I think Mary started the piscotarian name on here but I don't know if there is an "official" one, and the arguments will carry on untill one is put in the dictionary or whatever.

Sat 29 Jan 2005, 3.12PM

jennifer264

Oh well said Almazz..couldn't agree more.
Love that name, is it from the Randy Crawford song? one of my favourites.

Fri 28 Jan 2005, 2.25PM

Almazz

Delia (commonly referred to as 'Saint Delia' in my house), if you are reading this at any time, please do NOT hang up your apron just yet!!

Oh yes - I, like many others, enjoy watching the cheeky Jamie's, schmaltzy Nigella's and no fuss Nigel Slaters of this world, who would'nt? They are currently hip and funky and so enthusiastic and expressive about their food that they make you want to lick the telly in delight (that's when you realise you really ought to have dusted it first).

So if all the above are so great, why is it then that I have this very morning been out and purchased myself a copy of Delia's complete cookery course?

Well, because quite simply Delia is Ace. She may not flounce around the kitchen sexily sucking the dregs off her spoons, or chat up the camera man as she cooks, but who could watch that sort of stuff all day anyway?

Delias' simple no nonsense approach to food is no less watchable, and she does have something that most of the others don't - consistency. Her recipe's are sooo reliable! I frequently do trials of other recipes on my poor hubby before I would ever inflict them on dinner party guests. Some work beautifully, others don't (not even with any amount of sexy spoon sucking thrown in for good measure).

I have found however, that recipe trials are just simply not necessary with Delias' stuff - it NEVER fails! Not only that but she does give idiot proof explanations and advice on anything from utensils to where to find unusual ingredients such as dried shrimps.

I already own several books by all of those mentioned above, and many more besides. I use them constantly and would'nt part with any of them.

When in need of creating a masterpiece with no time to practise however - it is ALWAYS to Saint Delia I turn.

I can't wait to get stuck into my new book and whole heartedly support this 'Stand up for Delia' campaign.

Long may she reign!

Mon 24 Jan 2005, 6.21PM

bubbles71ppg

Delia the original???? What about the galloping gourmet and Fanny Craddock lol

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 6.45PM

Back to simple old Nick again :)

Isn't it Pescatorian or something like that?

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 5.39PM

Flaky

Essex Girl, he definitely pulled her up on the fact that she called her dish vegetarian when in fact it wasn't - I remember noticing at the time because of the number of threads there have been on here about this issue.

Tina - you can call your ex whatever you want! Big Grin No seriously, I believe the term in a 'non meat eater' which is terrible grammar in my opinion but that is the common term I think. Help me out folks if I'm wrong Wink I'm a confirmed carnivore myself.

I think AWT is very fond of Delia really. Smile

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 4.16PM

tina6

flakey my ex hubby calls himself a vegetarian but he eats fish, so what do i call him? i know nowt about things like this as i am a born carnivore, i am not be snotty i just need to know, so's that i can rib him and a few others about themselves saying they are vegetarians Wink all i do know is its vegans who don't eat any animal products, getting back to delia et al, relish i do agree that they have friendly feuds and it is funny, tbh i wonder if she was his real mentor to learn/want to know how to cook Smile

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 2.50PM

wizkid

Not too mention that Delia herself is the first to say she is not a chef. she never trained as one and calls herself a home cook.
As for AWT , those two have a friendly feud once in a while but both actually like each other, well according to Delia on a recent interview.
i think there is room for everyone, each inspires new peole to cook and introduce new ways to cook. Surely we need them all in the mix otherwise life would be so boring.
Just my humble opinion there though

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 2.43PM

snoozy

Missy, not a prob but just wanted to say that did you know that if we use capital letters on here its thought as shouting!!! lol, sorry i am chuckling, just an observation, hope you see the funny side. kimi.x

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 2.34PM

missy100

I AM CONFUSED BY THE ASSUMPTION MADE THAT PASSION FOR FOOD INVOLVES SWEARING AND DODGY CAMERA WORK, I WAS REFERRING TO THE SPONTONAIETY AND FLAIR SHOWN BY OTHER CHEFS WHEN CREATING. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT DELIA LIKES TO REVIVE AND IMPROVE DISHES, TECHNICIANS LIKE TO IMPROVE UPON THAT WHICH IS ALREADY THERE. YOU SURELY CANNOT COMPARE DELIA WITH THOSE CHEFS THAT FEEL THEIR WAY THROUGH RECIPES ON SCREEN AND ADD AND TAKE AWAY AT WHIM. SHE APPEARS WITH ALL NOTES AND EXACT MEASUREMENTS TO HAND BEFORE EVEN BEGINNING TO COOK, AND ALWAYS SEEMS TO FOLLOW AN EXACT PATH TO THE END. THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM MERELY AN OBSERVATION.

Thu 20 Jan 2005, 2.27PM

Essex Girl

I'm sure that if I have got this wrong someone will let me know,but didn't AWT criticize Delias Italian stuffed aubergines, not for using anchovies in a vegetarian recipe,but because she used both fish and cheese in an Italian recipe. In Delias recipe she says "strict vegetarians can replace the anchovies with extra capers" I won't say what I thought when I heard his comment, but what we are always told, if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything.

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 9.36PM

Flaky

Oh dear, thats pronounced Roozie by the way! Big Grin Sorry dear!

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 9.36PM

Flaky

Do you mean he didn't know it had anchovies in it Rusie?

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 6.58PM

Fantasia

No, I think we have been through it all enough, but does anyone remember the time that Jeni told Tony Tobin someone had emailed in about him using Lea and Perrins in a dish he called veggie, because it had anchovies in?
He didn't believe her, and was very put out.

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 6.56PM

frexy

A friend of my daughter's had her Wedding cake made by Delia,did hope to get to try it but daughter dear missed the wedding.

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 6.39PM

Porridge

Thanks Flaky, I didn't hear AWT pull her up at the end, I was probably still too busy ranting and raving about the anchovies! The confusion lies with people who eat fish and call themselves vegetarians! I don't want to get into the old argument again about what they should be called as people are probably fed up of me ranting on about it now
Big Grin

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 5.46PM

Flaky

I think you'll find you're wrong there tina - there has been a lot of discussion on this site about this. Vegetarians do NOT eat fish.

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 5.29PM

tina6

oh and before anyone asks, NO they are not really related lol, even my kids know them as auntie delia and uncle floyd, they think i'm sad lolol Big Grin

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 5.27PM

tina6

i do like delia, and like someone else here can't remember who but she and keith floyd are "my auntie and uncle" lol they are the ones that taught me how to cook, and made me enjoy cooking with no fuss, my mum is a useless cook Wink i agree with last saturday kitchen, she shouldn't have put anchovies in the dish BUT many veggies still eat fish its vegans that she should have been thinking about Wink

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 3.51PM

jennifer264

I think Delia has an enormous passion for food. Granted she doesn't swear, or dash about her food area, or use the "seasick" school of camera work, but there is plenty of "quiet" passion there..she is always developing new dishes, and revising the older ones but she just does it in an unassuming way rather than the showy style of other chefs.

Wed 19 Jan 2005, 3.45PM

Flaky

Yes Porridge - AWT did pull her up about that at the end of the slot.

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