I have no idea what you guys are on about, I'm just still so impressed with billy2blues post and how the sheer boredom of Tana's presentation sent him back to his Navy days and reminiscences about an "industrial cocoa".

Great stuff!!

1281, I remember that now! It was something really patronising like:



"Hello all,

Thanks for your comments about the first episodes of Market Kitchen; we really do appreciate all your feedback.

We do understand that the change in our programming may take a little adjustment – however lots of you somehow managed to tune in – we had viewing figures for these first episodes. You can also catch the repeats at 12.30 the next day, with an added 30 mins of extra food and recipes.

We hope that the programme’s format and presenters will become a much loved part of your daily viewing - look out for more really great chefs, guests and features over the coming months.

Thanks once again,

UKTV Food"



"Much loved?" Yeah, right-ee-o.

I think this channel is merely on autopilot without any real direction. No one is listening only because no one is home! They have clearly demonstrated that they have no programming talent whatsoever so they aren't going to take to any critique very well, are they?

You vill luv them!

I'd have to agree with you insider, there's doesn't seem to be any lights on at UKTVFood. Just the same old repeats over and over again. It's mindnumbing.

They're in a rut, that's for sure.

The execuitve offices have been abandoned for months now. I think they took the movie "28 days" seriously.

What a joke UKTVFood has become since they introduced "Market" Kitchen to the unsuspecting audience.

They think we are fools.

Argentinian beef, indeed. Hypocrites.

Yes, the have indeed foisted this garbage onto our screens nightly.

Clearly the lights are out! Frasier has left the building!

Does anyone know who dreamt up this Market Ktichen concept...there doesn't seem to be any credit for that at the end of the show? Just "commissioning executives", who probably are no longer with UKTV.

I'm with you on that one 1281, I haven't really watched much evening UKTVFood since Market Kitchen started airing. There's really no reason to anymore.

Wasn't the Market Kitchen concept a copy of another programme somewhere? I'm sure I read that a while back, I just can't remember where.

I don't know if it was a copy but the similarities between Market Kitchen and a show we had here about 4 years ago called LifeStyle Cafe are uncanny.

"Lifestyle Cafe" also had four presenters, equally unliked by the way, a very noisy cafe, peculiar camera work, little cooking contests and guest chef luminaries.

In fact I can't think of one salient characteristic that was different between these two programs, except that LifeStyle Cafe bombed in Australia only after three months or so.

It was an inept production and very hard to watch. It was boring. They've never even bothered to rerun it as far as I know.

Again, I don't know if it was copied, plagiarised or is just an uncanny coincidence.

Well since it was quickly put out of its misery it sounds as though your programming executives down there have a bit more common sense than ours here

If it has already been tried and failed, why try it again here? And as it is failing here now as it did there, why not just axe it and save the big money?

It certainly sounds that way.

We actually have a fair degree of variety on our food channel. The occasional "weekend marathon" annoys, but we seem to have many more food pograms here as we tend to get all the American, Canadian and South African shows as well as your BBC stuff.

(As wells as that lousy Market Kitchen, unfortunately)

What I am finding more and more irritating now is the recipes they are drumming up. They don't seem intended for us, the viewers, at all. Is it some sort of "one-upsmanship" between the guest chefs???

I know the rattlesnake, squirrels and chervil roots were ridiculous but am I weird by not liking the pigeon always being made. This must be the fourth time they are using this ingredient.

Maybe it's my urban upbringing, but "pigeon" just reminds me of those disease-ridden, grey flying rats that plague our city squares leaving droppings everywhere.

Or is it just me??

i think matt is a lovely presenter and he is sweet and come up with good recipes

sweet 11 karen

Pigeon, squirrel, rabbit, hare, hedgehog, snake and lizard.

All good sources of meat and when there was nothing else poor people could afford to buy these are what they survived on. This is not new and nothing to do with the upper classes or uppmanship.

I think they're like a little chiild who's trying to get attention. Now what can we do to get into the papers? Oh yes, let's cook squirrel and hedgehog and we might get some coverage.

Don't think it's worked though.

You are being very insulting to the Romany community now.

They are all old fashioned dishes and have also been on many cookery programmes over the years.

Like this one [link] please note it is from Great Food Live

I don't that was the point at all Larissa, certainly no one was trying to insult the "Romany Community"?! No need for such sensitivity

The point wasn't any one of those ingredients..GFL also occcassionally has the odd ingredient..the problem is the whole lot combined on MK. It's as if Market Kitchen is trying to prove some sort of obscure point but in the process has just gotten lost.

The food being presented recently is just off. Either it is inaccessible [or aat least so difficult to obtai no one would bother] or it is simply uninteresting.

I am rarely motivated to even try anything shown on Market Kitchen, unlike so many other shows like Contessa and Simply Italian. And, yes, even GFL.

So what's good for goose is no long good for the gander then? When it was on Great Food Live it was fine, because it is on Market Kitchen it isn't.

I get the idea.

I think you're right about that schmaltz, but I don't have access to chervil roots anywhere!!

The litany of ingredients from the overuse of foie gras in everything lately, to the chervil root, puff ball mushrooms, impala livers, squirrels, fried bees and the rattlesnake all in a month or so is way over the top IMHO.

Perhaps they could take all those segments and string them together into a single episode!!

Perhaps that's what they'll do this week! Painfully, they're going to subject us to snippets of the "Best of Market Kitchen". Whatever that means?

Merry Christmas!

It was dreadful schmaltz, I only caught a few minutes of two of them. They shouldn't have even bothered.

I must say I did notice some minor but effective changes and was encouraged.
However you managed to offset these improvements with the introduction of the equivelent of John Clease's "Dept. of Funny Talking"!!!!!

That woman's voice is terrible! Additionally she interups chefs all the time. Thatcher is also a bit guilty of this.

Get rid of "the voice" and I think you will have a sound format, and if I may say ask Matt to stop being so aloof and superscillious.

I haven't noticed any changes of significance whatsoever, what have you seen The fat one? I will honestly admit I can only watch maybe five to ten minutes of any one epicode but it all seems so mcuh as it always was...dry and pretentious.

At least they've stopped cooking with all those weird and somewhat distasteful ingredients. That's a BIG plus for me.

Superscillious Matt will not change. He's just a "lad". Very unappealling for that role.

Hi

I was just reading your e-mails and I was totally discussed that they took Jen off the air and replaced her with some stuck up market kitchen rubbish (that includes the presenters as well as the food) when Jen had so many exciting guests and included factual properties of where some of the recipes came from.

Yo Yo 1

Hi guys,

Some of us fought tooth and nail for GFL. It ain't gonna happen, I remember some slating Jen when she was on (we LOVED her) I hated folk like Alex Mac Kay and that Anjum bird.
We are here, you're not saying anything new, summers used to be hotter, days longer, it never rained in the school holidays etc.
Personally I think most of us have warmed to MK, except for Tana.
There are a million other channels, just press the button when MK comes on.