Just found out that Tana Ramsay is back!!!!

Haven't the producers been given the comments from this board on how disliked Tana is & being the weakest link of the whole show!!!



Anyway back also are Matt & Matthew & Tom will not be appearing regularly as much as the other 3.

For Pete's sake, haven't the producers learnt anything?? IMHO it is the presenters that are the source of all the problems - and Tana is the worst of the four.

The painful camerawork and the noisy, superfluous cafe could all be forgiven if it wasn't for the stilted style of the presenters. It is their style that imparts an air of boredom and wooden-ness to the whole show.

TVfoodie havent you learnt anything. they dont care what you think, the first series was a sucess so why change it?

People like TVFoodie think because they say something it should be acted on because they are right everyone else is wrong. Wake up and smell the cafe. You are wrong and all the thousands of viewers were right. Welcome back MK.

Well here's hoping that they can make some changes to MK to make it more enjoyable and engaging! Some suggestions:

Reduce the noise and distractions of the background "Cafe"
Introduce more banter and humour between presenter and chef
Eliminate inane and trite cookery "competitions"
Install "steady cam" equipment
Make sure all ingredients are readily accessible

IMHO these samll changes would ensure a successful, long-running series.

todays show has made me feel ill-two people sharing the brains of a pig while they are still in its head,
How can that be right

Well I won't be watching that one thanks...
Tana Ramsay is all over everything like a rash at the moment, she was featured in one of the Weekend magazines, and I've just heard her being interviewed on Radio 2..(should be Steve Wright but isn't ..is he on holiday AGAIN!!)
Anyway she was yapping on about her new family cookbook , and her wonderful life and Gordon etc etc.,

She was on this morning, with Schofield and co. She came across very well.

IMHO it is not a matter of "right" or "wrong", that's just a childish way to look at it. *Everyone* is "right". The people that like the program are right and the people that don't like it are also right. That's the whole concept of "opinion" It's in the eyes of the beholder.

I'm still not clear as to why some that enjoy the program become so personally offended by the critiques of the show. Do they work for the production company? That would appear to be the only reason to get such an unusually emotional reaction from them.

Those that don't like it do share one consistent thought - they would *like* it to be entertaining to them. In other words, they WANT it to be successful.

As it is a chop-and-chat show just like GFL, it would seem that this is entirely within the realm of the possible, In fact, looking at TVFood's comments above they all seem very reasonable indeed

No way!? They weren't eating pig's brains out of the skull on Market Kitchen, were they?? Oh I'm so glad I missed that episode!! What is wrong with this show? Just trying shock value? Yuk.

I'm with you 1000% weirdandwonderful. This is a dreadful programme.

YAY!!! After last week's dreadful, insipid, cringeworthy (& that's just the gruesome twosome TANA & MATT) opening of the new series MK is back this week with the fabulous DUO!!!

MATTHEW FORT & TOM PARKER BOWLES WELCOME BACK!!!

And with equally great watch GIORGIO LOCATELLI (well I really hope Giorgio is on this week based on the ad UKTV Food has been showing over trhe weekend)!!!

I'm with you bab! Matthew Fort and TPB are the SUPERIOR duo on this program. In fact, the other two don't even rate on the dial.

And Giorgio will be quite the catch as he doesn't do TV very much (except his own of course) I love his program and even though he doesn't describe or recite his recipes, the program has been produced so well that you can jot down notes as the program progresses and, volia, a recipe is at hand!

I look forward to seeing him!

As Oysterman says - it's a matter of opinion. The programme has faults, no doubt. Tana Ramsay being the biggest one. She is just not suitable for TV - her eyes are all over the place trying to read an auto cue, she looks terminally bored when anyone other than herself is the centre of attention and, let's face it, she's only there because she happens to be married to Gordon Ramsay - big deal! The other presenters are fine, Tom Parket-Bowles I wasn't sure about but he has settled in and is OK. Matthew Fort is a sweetie and comes over very well.

I use some of the recipes and the product comparisons are useful.

All in all it's not the worst programme on UKTV Food - at least we don't have Tamsin Day Lewis (another one who's only there because of her name!) shaking her hair all over the food or Nigella smirking and licking her fingers. Good Food Live was not that wonderful that it should be brought back and its presenter was not a lot better than any of those on Market Kitchen.

All TV sets have an off switch - so if you don't like market Kitchen - don't watch it! I get the feeling some people only watch so they can complain about it.

ReedW it seems to me that they are deliberately picking weird and sometimes disgusting ingredients. Many of them are simply inaccessible in my area.

Why do they make this show so hard to watch?

Well this week it's Spain! And I love spanish cooking and culture. Let's see how Market Kitchen can ruin this one, it'll be tough! They'd better not throw in some weird ingredient.

I especially want to see the making of a tortilla, something that I always screw up. Any tips on techniques here would be most welcome.

A remember this wonderful dish from Great Food Live [link] ?

You’re so right, TVs do have an off switch Sylvestra and that’s what UKTVFood and your Waitrose people over there should be afraid of. Here the show has been generally panned for many of the reasons you mentioned, particularly that Tana person.

Except for her name, why on earth was she *ever* selected to be a host of this show? She has absolutely zero televison talent. She seems so uncomfortable and as you say her eyes are all over the place trying to read the teleprompter.

Not only does she look bored, I am convinced she finds this whole thing quite tedious when she is not the complete focus of the program.

I have to agree with you about Tamsin’s hair. Also Giorgio, too. I always imagine the little strands people must find in their food

I've been watching Market Kitchen since it started several months ago, and though there're still some sorts of trials and error to find out and establish a fomula that would work better, I am generally happy with the way the programme is made because it is much more focused on food and is far more intelligently presented than its predecessor, Good Food Live, which ended up being a certain female presenter's "Look At Me! Look At Me!" talk show.

HOwever, there is one thing I definitely do not like.........
That is the way programme is filmed and aired.
Because the programmes are filmed so many weeks in advance, by the time it is broadcast many of 'seasonal' ingredients used in the recipes in the show is quite often finished completely and you cannot get hold of them.
I live in ourtkirt of London where is near enough to go to Borough Market whenever I feel like it fortunately, so I do go there very often. So whenever I see an interesting recipe in the programme with 'the ingredient of the season, I go there on the first weekend after the programme and I was so disappointed so many times because I was told by the vendors that the season for those particular ingredients are over many weeks ago. This happens more occasionally with vegetables which season tend to be shorter than other ingredients like meat, cheese, fish, etc. , and it is really annoying and disappointing, I must say.

You named the programme "Market Kitchen" and you are claiming that one of the purpose of the programme is 'to promote the seasonality in cooking', so filming it so much in advance before broadcasting is totally off the mark.

Or maybe you introducing ingredients so that we can use them following year?

I sincerely hope you will re-consider the way of filming and broadcasting.
Thank you.

I too hope that they seriously reconsider the way this programme is filmed and broadcast Nobuko, but my guess is that it is very unlikely.

As with your quite correct criticism of the show above, there have been 1000's of other suggestions - not one of which has been taken up, as far as I can see.

One would think that they would think at least ONE suggestion worthy, but no. MK has been deemed to be perfect from day one as you can tell by its ossified format.

Clearly they aren't interested in the opinions of some of the viewing public.

I actually think they ARE trying new things oyster, it's just that it's not working the way they had hoped. This whole ingredients direction over the past couple of weeks I think was a deliberate deviation from the programme. I thought it added interest but what was sacrificed was "cookability" to those that liek to try their own hand at what they see on TV.

I firmly believe the addition of Diana Henry was to placate the "where's Jeni" viewers and note how there are more GFL chefs of late?

And I would guess this latest surge of "big name" chefs seems an attempt to boost sagging viewership. So, very subtly, I see them tweaking things to try to find "the formula".

I just think it's hopeless at this late date, they should have been trying this in the first few weeks of the programme when the initial firestorm occurred. There were a lot of great ideas back then to improve the show.

I think by now most have just given up and don't even tune in anymore "to see if it has improved".

note how there are more GFL chefs of late?

Er, excuse me but do I take it that none of these were heard of prior to that defuct , look at me, light entertainment show being aired or were they contracted to the show. Did they not appear on anything else?

They are professionals earning their living from food and would appear on anything, anywhere, if the price was right or they wanted to promote a new book or venue.

Start getting real you lot. Repeating something enough times does not make it fact.

I too am wondering what all these small "tweaks" as you call them are about, particularly the addition of Diana Henry. Why would they do that? She's clearly not a replacement for anyone and sort of has beomce a fifth wheel in a way.

And they banished Tana to the Market for a brief period, that also seemed somewhat odd. Where are they going with this? Is it just changes for changes sake?

I think the tweaks as you call them are an attempt to salvage the show. I note the inclusion of Mexican food this past week, a very positive add although the specific recipes they picked would turn more people off from Mexican than inspire them. They seem to be clueless as to what interests the viewer.

The change to 7pm is very telling. They seem to be entering their last throws....

Sorry I missed this when it was posted, I'm pretty sure that most of the chefs would not only be miffed but very insulted to be called "GFL chefs"

Yes there are a few who have made their names through GFL but none of them have been on Market Kitchen as I remember, the ones who have been on have been as Barshedale has very rightly said professionals earning their living in the industry and it shows their worth that they were around before and after GFL.

To say that Diana Henry was put in to placate the bring back Jeni brigade is hilarious. OK, they are both brunette and neither are very tall. End of.

The comment of "they banished Tana to the Market for a short while" I think Tana will have been overjoyed and sincerely complimented on being given a turn.

The Mexican food this last week - I don't rate Thomasina, but the bottom line is that people in this country have been screaming out for REAL Mexican food for a long time now. Not the awful TexMex we have been fobbed off with. I bought a book by Jocelyn Dimbelby years ago and it is one of the most used books in my cookery book library.

As for the change of airing to 7pm .................... isn't that what people on here asked for? Or is now listening to the viewer and poster wrong as well?

Whichever way you look at it, the show is great, the presenters are good and know what they are talking about, the chefs are professional and happy to be able to talk about what they are doing, the features and guests are fabulous.

I know what Barry means when he says "GFL Chefs" - they became known and loved by us on GFL. It makes sense.

But I have to disagree about the presenters, they are dreadful. And why do they have five of the good grief.

The addition of Mexican food this past few days was great, the beef enchiladas are a great easy to make treat although not very authentic. Try green chiles and cheese.

But the fungus quesadilla. Who was that made for? How about a black bean and prawn quesadilla that everyone can make?? Hmmm??

I don't recall anyone asking for the time to change...I remember someone making the comment that putting on at 8PM was a "death wish" as everyone had eaten by then.

Whilst MK *could* have the makings of an adequate food show, everything they do is just slightly "off" for some reason.

PS For REAL Mexican that is authentic and accessible I recommend Rick Bayliss' books. They are all terrific and he knows what he's talking about. How about bring HIM onto MK??

It wasn't Barry (Bazzer the first) who called them GFL chefs, he queried that someone else had, and as he said they did and do appear elsewhere.

The fungus quesadilla? I agree with you, however, isn't picking out one ingredient from a whole week rather TOO picky?

There were loads of calls to change the time of the airing, loads of moans that it clashed with things or it was too late and couldn't it be brought forward.

I will have a look for Rick Bayliss books, have you any titles?