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Pam22

Posted 11.25AM
Sat 14 Aug 2004

What is the difference in these cuts of meat i realise they are from different parts of the pig but is the taste a lot different? I wanted to cook the recipe that L.Duncan cooked the other day but could not get ham only gammon.

 
DeLeeder

Posted 5.45PM
Sat 14 Aug 2004

ham is pink and cold, and gammon is some sort of board game Big Grin

 
Beanz69

Posted 10.17AM
Sun 15 Aug 2004

I thought Ham was gammon when cooked Confused

 
Pam22

Posted 11.45AM
Mon 16 Aug 2004

Well i watched the video on here of Lotti last week cooking ham and Jenni asked her is there any difference between ham and gammon and Lotti said no so there you go, any way i cooked it yesterday followig her recipe and it was lovely Big Grin

 
suzanne25

Posted 7.55PM
Thu 19 Aug 2004

I was told gammon becomes ham when cooked also,----Have you tried Nigella's gammon simmered in Coca Cola absolutely wonderful.

 
Wino

Posted 5.36PM
Fri 20 Aug 2004

Yes, I've cooked this a few times and my husband would trough through the entire joint on his own I think!

 
oscar2

Posted 5.06PM
Sat 21 Aug 2004

I cook the ham in coca cola too, its fantastic. Not sure about the difference between gammon and ham though, sorry.

 
Aliz

Posted 10.24PM
Tue 24 Aug 2004

pam - was hoping someone would satisfy my curiosity after you asked your question. sadly, no one has replied for AGES and i had to look for it myself. did a search for gammon, and thought i'd share it with you.

gammon: 'The buttock or thigh of a hog, salted and smoked or dried; the lower end of a flitch. --Goldsmith.'

ham: 'The thigh of any animal; especially, the thigh of a hog cured by salting and smoking.'

Smile

 
Lil'Abby

Posted 10.28PM
Tue 24 Aug 2004

Not all ham is smoked though is it?

 
Fantasia

Posted 10.42PM
Tue 24 Aug 2004

No it's not Lil'Abby, and also you can buy Shoulder Ham. I always thought that 'ham' could be any any of a few joints from a pig, cured, but gammon was simply a better cut from the leg, cured. Just to confuse it more, I used to buy Gammon Ham.

 
Fantasia

Posted 10.59PM
Tue 24 Aug 2004

I also found this.......

Ham is the cured product of the upper leg and buttock of the pig and differs from gammon only in that the latter is cut from the side of bacon after it has been cured. It is stable when raw after a certain period of maturation but is often cooked to pasteurisation temperature, 70°C, or it may be canned at pasteurising temperature. It may be smoked as an additional means of preservation and flavouring.

 
Aliz

Posted 11.15AM
Wed 25 Aug 2004

that's more like it - keep the conversation going. WHO KNOWS???? there must be a butcher out there somewhere... Smile

 
Aliz

Posted 11.15AM
Wed 25 Aug 2004

that's more like it - keep the conversation going. WHO KNOWS???? there must be a butcher out there somewhere... Smile

 
LotteDuncan

Posted 11.33AM
Wed 25 Aug 2004

Okay - I must admit that when Jeni asked me this question on the show the other day, it was one I should have answered straight away. However my thought afterwards was that a Gammon is un-cooked and a Ham is is cooked. So..... I telephoned my butcher to clarify. He said ' that when someone comes into his butchers and asks for a Gammon, he will produce the meat raw, ready to be cooked. And when someone asks for Ham, it is cooked and from his deli counter. It is the same cut - leg and top of thigh. A few years ago it was called Gammon Ham but he says that has been phased out and now its just Gammon or Ham!'
Phew!
So, hopefully this will answer your question - it has certainly helped me.
By the way Pam, really pleased you tried the recipe and enjoyed it!
Lotte. Smile Smile

 
Chrisette

Posted 9.55AM
Sat 4 Dec 2004

Thank you so much for the explanation about the diffeence between gammon and "ham"

Which is the better - i.e. meatier - part of the gammon to buy, as it probably has been cut in half?

Thank you for all your wonderful receipes I really appreciate them.

All good wishes for Christmas

Christiane M. Elias

 
blondie02

Posted 10.26AM
Sat 4 Dec 2004

It depends on how many people you are feeding.A whole gammon 12-14 lbs and is normally cut into joints. Middle gammon is lean and succulent.That comes from the middle of the leg.Has a really good flavour.This is the piece that most people choose. Then finished off with cloves ect:

 
Pam22

Posted 9.49AM
Mon 6 Dec 2004

Ok folks so what is the difference between gammon and a hock and do you cook them in the same way ie slowly?

 
blondie02

Posted 4.13PM
Mon 6 Dec 2004

Are you talking about a gammon knuckle when you say Hock. Hock has a high proportion of bone.It is usually sold for boilng.The knuckle end is tough so it's best to take the flesh off and use it in casseroles. Now gammon is suitable for boiling and roasting depending on the piece of gammon you buy and the Gammon slipper is from the inside of the hind leg and is best boiled.

 
Pam22

Posted 10.36AM
Tue 7 Dec 2004

Well the butcher sold it to me as bacon hock, i cooked it slowly in a casserole with veg and it was tasty. Does any one on here ever buy sweetbreads? I ate them recently in a restaurant and they were tasty but have asked several butchers and the have said no can do.

 
blondie02

Posted 10.51AM
Tue 7 Dec 2004

I don't like offal.I'm surprised your butcher doesn't sell lamb's sweetbreads as they are plentiful.Ask him to get you some.My butcher will always get me what i want.

 
victoriaxxx

Posted 7.05PM
Tue 7 Dec 2004

gammon is lovely when its cooked with brown sugar and a can of guiness or stout etc....

 
pmk

Posted 5.13PM
Mon 20 Dec 2004

Does anyone know why in the Nigella recipe for gammon cooked in coke, she advises you to NOT discard the cooking liquid ... and then there are no further instructions as to what to do with it? Confused

 
kirstyb00

Posted 12.15PM
Wed 22 Dec 2004

I also tried Nigellas Gammon cooked in Coca Cola and it was fabulous! I served it at my recent dinner party and it was the biggest hit of all! Thanks Nigella!

 
 
 

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