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JKerching

Posted 6.49PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

This is more a comment for the producers of the programme than something for discussion, but it'd be interesting to see if others think the same.

I'm a big fan of WRC and I'm glad to see that it's finally on at a watchable time on a decent channel, however as soon as flicked on to watch it, I realised I was in for the most poorly, botched together programme I'd ever seen. The interviews are amateur, the presenter is appalling, they won't stop mentioning the fact that it's "access all areas" and there's barely any actual coverage of the rallying itself. They can't have made a worse job of it if they'd deliberatly tried to. I'd rather it go back to being on at 3 in the morning, than continue to watch Dave's appaling attempts to cover it.

 
willy wombat1

Posted 7.02PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

Angry

I agree worst coverage I have ever seen, will be watching on eurosport in the future. We don't want to see the cities, interviews are okay intermittently what we actually want to see if the racing. Also not multiple screens at multiple time in the stages so that we can't tell what is really happening with either one. A family of very dissapointed WRC fans that wish they hadn't have bothered.

Angry

 
jonnybudd

Posted 7.28PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

ITV did better last year, at least you got to see some of the rally. Eurosports it is from now on

 
Sparks7

Posted 7.46PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

Just watched the poorest coverage of a wrc event i have ever seen. The presenter must think we are all thick! Totally unamused about the welsh comment made by the presenter. I didn't bother watching the programme through, i will wait until thursday night and watch it on S4C. Angry

 
jaz340

Posted 8.56PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

Angry Angry AngryI have only registerd on this site to put my view forward of the WRC :: NEIL COLE needs to shut his mouth he doesnt have a clue about the rally or what it means to be a rally fan nor do the people of dave tv...RALLY FANS wish to watch more of the RALLY and not this amateur interviewer who will not shut up I loved the rally on itv 4 great commentary:: im afraid if this continues then i will record the rally from eurosport while it may be on late at night at least they know how to cover a sport remember its about the racing not what the drivers had for breakfast or how they relax thats all secondary

 
alancianut

Posted 8.58PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

Thanks for attempting to bring a highly technical sport back to prime time tv.However, I think the coverage was amateur, and clearly aimed at the less-well informed fan. Most watch WRC events to see action, through the eyes of the driver, its the only way to convey the speed of the cars. Close ups inside the car mean almost nothing, and the split screen just is a waste of time. Interviews are ok if the interviewer knows what is going on and asks the right questions. Clearly the presenter has no prior knowledge of the sport, evidence being in his strange attire. Who wears a tie to a rally? Sadly, it was a wasted opportunity to convey the thrills and atmosphere of an amazing event.

 
McBlue

Posted 9.05PM
Sun 27 Jan 2008

Thanks for covering the WRC guys, but I have to agree with the other comments here. There was not enough of the action and at no time did I ever get any sense that there was any kind of race going on. It was so boring I nearly gave up and turned over. Most people watch sport because the excitement gets the adrenaline going. This dull and dreadful mish-mash nearly had me dropping off.

 
LayZ

Posted 9.51PM
Mon 28 Jan 2008

I had three episodes of WRC recorded on my PVR and was excited about getting coverage from every day as they used to when it was on C4. Unfortunately they were repeats of the same programme!

That said, the coverage was slick, better than on ITV. Well done. I don't think there's any harm in introducing new viewers to the sport with some 'fluff', as long as there is enough content to back it up.

BUT

Since you have the rights to this and a lot of programming on Dave is repeats (albeit good ones) why not make more from the WRC coverage? 3x1hr shows per event would be great, I'd watch em all.

 
witty

Posted 10.41AM
Tue 29 Jan 2008

copverage 10 times better than crappy itv keep up the great coverage!!
Big Grin Smile

 
trevo_6

Posted 12.08PM
Tue 29 Jan 2008

The coverage is crap on Dave to now, its better ahving a behind the scenes and special contect and a proper presenter like we had on ITV1 and Channel 4 days when WRC was at its prime but now all the contect on Dave keeps on about the fans and Mathew Wilson all the time, I dont wanna know about all that, i want to see the action and I dont mean just the Fords and citroens! We didnt even hear or see much about Subaru, Henning Solberg, Suzuki, and the changes at Subaru withDavid Richards etc! Very poor coverage of the rally, the only best things are the access all areas previews!

why dont you keep all the behind the scenes to that program and concentrate on the coverage of the rally because really wev missed allot of it. The best place for coverage is Eurosport at the moment and I do not have that at home. It is better to have it and not have it but it could be allot better than it is. Least ITV had more coverage of the rallys Frown

 
trevo_6

Posted 12.09PM
Tue 29 Jan 2008

If i went all the way to Monte Carlo i wouldnt be going to see the fans and other stuff like that! thats not wat i go to see. Neil Cole did better coverage when he did shakedown!

 
roger_roger78

Posted 2.28PM
Tue 29 Jan 2008

I am shocked; i specifically logged onto this forum to congratulate Dave on a great job with the Monte-Carlo show, and everyone's xxxxging it off?! Confused
I am a lapsed/casual motorsport fan, and I thought the coverage brought me right back into the sport. I was entertained, plus I really got the sense of what WRC involves these days. And the presenter fitted right in with the channel... there was "witty banter" as well as genuine rally insights. Keep up the good work! Smile

 
trevo_6

Posted 3.47PM
Tue 29 Jan 2008

there was hardly any coverage of ther acutal rally that the program was about, i have been a Rally fan for years and seen it on bbc, channel 4, itv1, itv4 and now on here and this doesnt even cover what happend that weekend, i watched the eurosport coverage after from the net and i saw all the action and abit of other things, there was loads i didnt see on Dave and news or anything. It was good but it aint as good as it should be sorry

 
trevo_6

Posted 7.59PM
Sun 3 Feb 2008

The programme tonight 3rd Feb was better with news and more coverage of the last rally but the why the heck did they show the same thing but with abit more like the first access all areas in jan with matthew wilson? what a total waste of time. i liked the rest of the programme tho thats how it should be, why dont they show all the coverage on the rally programmes then on access all areas have special behind the scenes and inerviews and lots of news like the ISCs progamming of the rally previews, on the prgramme tonight was the first time i saw more about subaru and suzuki and the changes for this year, they didn show much of the changes in Subaru still tho but nevermind Frown was better than the last access all ares preview except they spoiled it by having the same interview with bloody matthew wilson again, i bet there was loads of people who tunred over thinking it was a repeat! me and my dad and fiancee thought it was at first!

 
JohnZ

Posted 9.05PM
Sun 3 Feb 2008

WRC! it was more like "At home with the Wilson's" I thought rally fans liked to watch rallying, not the same interviews and footage over and over again.
I won't be watching again.

 
trevo_6

Posted 12.06PM
Tue 5 Feb 2008

what do u expect for free? Frown but the end part was the best like it should be on the previews with news etc that the ISC sends out,the matthew wilson thing was good but we already saw it at the start of the year i dont know why they dint show it all the first time not again and abit more this time it took nearly all the hour up! it should be rally coverage then access all areas with news previews etc like that how it should be. Im fed up with hearing about Matthew wilson now, they should visit prodrive and see how the progress is going with the new subaru and how they build the cars

 
hovercop

Posted 9.20AM
Sat 9 Feb 2008

ConfusedHave to agree with all the comments. I wrote 2 weeks ago after the Monaco rally and complained about the awful standard of the coverage. I watched Eurosport last night and actually got to see some rallying Sort it out.

 
bemused_rally_fan

Posted 6.31PM
Sun 10 Feb 2008

I have to say that Daves WRC coverage should help to bring new viewers to the sport. It is notoriously difficult to get rallying to appeal to new people but i think this program does it. it gives a basic overview of the sport, some technical information and some information on the stages. it introduces us to the drivers and manufacturers and to some of the rules of WRC. however Neil Cole is patronising and i am extremely upset to find that this is now the only coverage of the rally for those of us without Sky. I feel that for the more seasoned fans who cant afford to travel the world to see it for real the coverage we get is dismal.
I think im going to have to consider signing up to Sky just because i refuse to try and follow the whole season watching Mr Cole arsing about, fumbling about as clearly the most useless presenter ive seen for some time. perhaps he could consider working in childs TV where his tone of voice and silliness would appeal to the clientele.
Lets hope it gets a bit better soon or daves viewing figures are going to plummet. Confused Angry Eek

 
McBlue

Posted 8.45PM
Sun 10 Feb 2008

Well your coverage of the Swedish rally might actually have been worse. It was dull and boring with hardly any action. Yet again there was no sense of excitement or even any feeling that there was a race in progress. Most of the time I had no idea who was leading or who was racing who, or what stage we were on etc, it was all just a disjointed confusing mess with the race coverage broken up with inane and extended interviews or clips from previous years. You don’t see them breaking away in the middle of a football match to show and discuss last years match.

I’ve been a rally fan for over 30 years and never before have I lost interest in the middle of an event. We have had some dreadful coverage of rallying over the years and it is hard to believe that it just got worse. Please, if you can’t do it properly then don’t do it at all.

 
roger_roger78

Posted 9.20AM
Tue 12 Feb 2008

dull and boring? hardly any action?? you must have been watching another programme mate, because the rally show from sweden sunday night was one of the best pieces of WRC telly I've seen for years. About twice as much action than in the Monte Carlo show, but also some excellent guidance from the presenter, good informal interviews... and, bemused_rally_fan (bless!), i think you'll find Mr Cole and his "arsing about" (!?) is already helping Dave's viewing figures to increase. So, if you don't like it, don't watch it... I know that everyone I've spoken to loves the show, and word is spreading, so it can only help rallying to generate new fans.

 
LayZ

Posted 9.43AM
Tue 12 Feb 2008

I think Neil Cole does a good job, and this episode was an improvement.

The current format should bring new viewers to WRC, which I assume it desperately needs. Still, I think there should be more coverage for the more hardcore fans like us.

 
bemused_rally_fan

Posted 10.42AM
Tue 12 Feb 2008

roger_roger78 - 'so it can only help rallying to generate new fans' - is what i was saying, that it seems to be aimed at bringing new people in. it just seems quite dyer that the people who just really wanna see as much of the actually racing as possible seem to be being forgotton. i agree it is essentially a good program but its just too basic to be the only coverage available. its increasing daves viewing figures by bringing in new fans but its gotta look after the hardcore people, the ones that spend many of their sundays standing in rain and mud 'for the love of the sport' who trail all over the country for it but cant go to the more exotic places to follow the WRC.
altho thats a whole other topic, how the organisers treat marshals these days but i wont go into that.

 
trevo_6

Posted 3.36PM
Tue 12 Feb 2008

I do admit it aint as good as before, ITV4 coverage was better with all action and some interveiws it was more like eurosports coerage which is the best at the mo but all in 1 hour. I also liked ITV4s special programms crashed, raziest moments etc.
This Sweden coverage was allot better than Monte Carlo, I dont even recall seeing any action during monte! That was a discrace. You dont see them not covering the action during a F1 race or football match!
I am happy neil cole is presenting and we have a proper presenter like the ITV1 days but it aint as good its like they cannot be botherd to edit the program properly, its like its all out of order i couldnt really follow it properly and what was all that raving on about during that head to head thing?
Never mind it can only get better, same about Monte tho, swden was allot better hpefully they will all be like that. Least there wasnt anymore about Matthew wilson again.
I like them showing the previews and news and techical things like the WRC cameras thats what we should be seeing proper ISC programming with the presenter aswel.
The ucoming crashes and other special programs should be good aswel, If they are goin to be anything like ITV4s special ones with Neil then they should be.

 
trevo_6

Posted 3.38PM
Tue 12 Feb 2008

If the people watching it on dave then they are only people who watched it on ITV4 before coz fans know its moved there so they will watch it there like me. Poeple who dint know about it on ITV4 now seeing it on dave and didnt like it beofre will prob watch it aswel obviously.

 
Marcusd666

Posted 9.05PM
Thu 14 Feb 2008

Smile My Mrs and I have been mad rally fans for 10 years and have been to many rallys. We think that some of the negative comments about Dave's WRC coverage are unjust - the usual pointless moaners who have to complain 'cos they "know it all". Well for the last 4 or so years the UK coverage of rallying has been useless. ITV are all about plugging formula 1, ooh let's see if Posh spice has arrived in the pits yet, don't overtake or you'll be fined - you know the drill and Eurosport is on at ridiculous times and - yes, you see plenty of rallying (if the snooker doesn't run over) but you never get to know any behind the scenes stuff and we felt we were starting to lose touch with the drivers because of this.
We love the coverage on Dave, yes OK it gives some basics but it has to try and recruit a new audience and MAKE MONEY or the sport would eventually die out at top level. The commentator is good, the purists prob don't like him cos he's not an ex driver. I welcome the coverage - love it. Anything better than what we had - nearly as good as C4! Never watched ITV's as puerile and plebby. - they'd do a "celebrity in a rally car" if they could with a phone in. If u don't like it, watch ITV or even worse, Formula 1 which is no longer a sport.

 
 
 

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